tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6641738716446631837.post2493981277507916662..comments2023-08-27T12:35:12.308+02:00Comments on sanscrite cogitare, sanscrite loqui: Intertextualityelisa freschihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17068583874519657894noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6641738716446631837.post-53037844681624489162012-07-17T03:06:02.647+02:002012-07-17T03:06:02.647+02:00Thanx, elisa. I looked more into the word "i...Thanx, elisa. I looked more into the word "intertextuality". It seems to be used lots of different way with each scholar making it their best friend. Words are funny.<br /><br />I read a few pages of Graham Allen's text (google books) it was incomprehensible to me -- not being a literature person.<br /><br />Thanx for the info!Sabio Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963476276106907984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6641738716446631837.post-52509817925223806982012-07-12T02:50:05.534+02:002012-07-12T02:50:05.534+02:00I think it, and the work around the concept, is ve...I think it, and the work around the concept, is very useful for thinking about pre-modern texts. I've been trying to utilize it in regards to textual practices such as redaction, composition, and the like, during the middle-period of Buddhism in South Asia. Some of the post-modern articulations of it can be annoying, but I think there are some useful concepts for Indologists and others to use. I've found Graham Allen's Intertextuality (The New Critical Idiom) the most useful introduction.Warner Belangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00885649999227305507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6641738716446631837.post-87962509884968117012012-07-11T21:06:12.949+02:002012-07-11T21:06:12.949+02:00Hi Sabio, nice to read you again! I am not sure I ...Hi Sabio, nice to read you again! I am not sure I understand your point re. reductionism: was it for this post or for the previous one?<br />As for the ideology of intertextuality, you are right, fashion is surely one of the reasons for its raise. But another reason is the fact that books and texts have become increasingly "closed" and, consequently, intertextuality needed to be stressed again (whereas until, say, the 1650, it was obvious). I am not aware of any "ideological" use of this term, if you are thinking of extra-intellectual ideologies.elisa freschihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068583874519657894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6641738716446631837.post-74368539124544632762012-07-10T12:53:45.505+02:002012-07-10T12:53:45.505+02:00Now following -- I had a bit of trouble with the I...Now following -- I had a bit of trouble with the Italian on the Google comment page, sorry.Sabio Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963476276106907984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6641738716446631837.post-19158483479660541202012-07-10T12:52:56.880+02:002012-07-10T12:52:56.880+02:00I hadn't heard of "Intertextuality" ...I hadn't heard of "Intertextuality" but the two "facts" seemed correct enough. So I looked it up.<br /><br />The facts I know are:<br /><br />(1) Writers create pieces in response to other writers/genre or influenced by an other or several writers.<br /><br />(2) Writers allude to other writers or genres<br /><br />If "intertextuality" captures that non-isolated notion, then great. Delineating these connections show what a complex system literature is. "Reductionism" gets a bad name because if assumes that "Reductionists" are only interested in the parts and not their inner workings. Mechanics (reductionists, for sure) certainly don't do this, Scientists don't do it and I doubt literature folks do it.<br /><br />I don't know anyone who thinks the sum of the parts equal the whole -- everyone realizes that relationships between parts is part of the whole.<br /><br /><a href="http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=intertextuality&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3" rel="nofollow">Using "ngram" </a>we can see the swift rise of this word. It seems it points to the obvious for which we have other terms and thus I worry that it may be the tool of some ideology. Words, after all, are not just the sum of their letters.<br /><br />Have you seen this word used in any academic ideologically? Are there real-life reductionists in Sanskrit circles?Sabio Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963476276106907984noreply@blogger.com